Talk:List of best-selling Nintendo Switch video games

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New update to minecraft and new pokemon snap sales

https://www.famitsu.com/ranking/game-sales/

Both games ended up in the top 30 for the week ending at August 22nd with minecraft being in 4th with a total of 2.139 million and new pokemon snap is in 29th at a total of 272K or .272 million.

Suika Game (Watermelon Game) has sold a million units

https://www.aladdinx.jp/pages/suika-game

This Japan-only eshop game sold game has sold a million units. Not sure if we put download only games, but its something.

LuigiVs (talk) 16:21, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Digital games are equally valid for the list, so that's not a problem. The question is usually "Do we have a reliable source that verifies specific sales?" and "Can we confirm that all of the sales are strictly for the Switch version?" Sometimes, a company will announce that a game sold a million copies, but if the game was released on Switch and PS4, and there's no way to tell how many copies were sold on each platform, then it can't go on the list. Sergecross73 msg me 16:50, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

From what I've gathered, it's only officially on the Japanese eshop (any PC or mobile version are unofficial clones). Regardless, the link up top is the developer's website which straight up states "1 million downloads in the Nintendo store" LuigiVs (talk) 02:11, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There's a few Japanese news sites that reported on the 1M sold for Suika Game on Switch. Here's one of them from Den Fami Nico Gamer, one of the reliable sources: https://news.denfaminicogamer.jp/news/231009d.

I can see that a couple of English sites have started picking up on the game recently (Siliconera, Polygon) , however none of them have mentioned the 1M milestone yet. I guess we can use the Japanese source until an English one comes along? Jpseek (talk) 02:28, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and added it to the list since it was featured on Famitsu. Though something tells me that this number will be updated soon. Jpseek (talk) 04:03, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Suika Game downloads

The last report for the game (putting it at 5 million downloads) ends December 14. However, from december 7 to december 11, you could download Suika Game freely. I think we should go back to the previous sales figures and stop updating it if they continue giving only downloads numbers. --Quand nous chanterons (talk) 00:26, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sparks of Hope figures

Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope selling 3 million keeps getting adding to the article due to this source. There's a few issues here:

Their wording used - "sources say", " VGC understands", "Ubisoft declined to comment when approached in advance of publication of this story" - make it relatively clear that these are not official figures.

Additionally, the way they openly compare figures to the prior games player count figures instead of sales, also make me question if they're talk about sales figures or player count here.

I originally only caught the changes to the intro, but I'm now seeing it's been added to the list too. Based on the above, I question these figures and think it should be removed. Looking to get a consensus on that. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 21:42, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ultimately, if VGC is to be considered a trustworthy source, we must accept their sources, and the things their sources say, as fact. We must assume VGC did fact-checking as to the identity of this source and whether they had access to the information they claimed. If we are going to doubt whether this figure is accurate, then we are calling the entire trustworthiness of the site into question, and it should be marked as situational. Therefore, I would lean towards keeping the source in the article unless proven otherwise or unless VGC is demoted as a source from reliable to situational or unreliable. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:24, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not arguing they're not trustworthy. I'm arguing they are trustworthy in reporting on unofficial sales figures, which should not be presented as fact in a list like this. Big difference. Sergecross73 msg me 22:37, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is called investigative journalism. Many many articles are written by big respected news sites with their sources staying anonymous. This is one of these cases. You clearly do not consider them trustworthy at all, or any news site for that matter, as you only trust officially reported sales figures, in which case it would mostly just be VGC quoting a tweet or whatever. BB1802 (talk) 22:43, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, I'm asking people to do some critical thinking here. Why would Ubi Soft give a "no comment" response on official sales figures? It doesn't make any sense. I'm not the only one noticing. Other websites reporting on it are using wording like ""reportedly" and "Rumor".

I'm fine if it's mentioned in the article's prose with the proper context. My objection is presenting unofficial figures on this list that states figures as fact. Sergecross73 msg me 23:04, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ubi says "no comment" because corporations always say no comment. They gain nothing by confirming it and could potentially lose stock price by confirming something outside of their normal official sales declarations (probably an annual shareholder meeting or something). It could go up too, but that's uncertain and the best way to avoid the uncertainty is to just say nothing. It makes perfect sense why they would not comment. Axem Titanium (talk) 19:36, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article clearly says "sales" and makes a clear distinction from "players". Idk what is hard to understand there.

They specifically say: "Sparks of Hope is performing roughly in line with the historical performance of the first game". The 10 million player number is only mentioned after that as context. Sparks of Hope's sales number is not being compared to Kingdom Battle's most recent player number update.

The intro text had only been changed after I added the game to the list. It wouldn't make any sense to add a game's sales to that franchise total if it isn't on the list.

Quoting you here: "We don't update the entire platforms one game at a time like this. It'd be impossible to keep track of which games are or aren't included."

Why would we not update it one game at a time? If a game is on the list it should be included in this number. BB1802 (talk) 22:38, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unless we have a source for how many Mario games are sold on the Switch, the whole statement should be removed per WP:SYNTH and WP:OR. Sergecross73 msg me 23:07, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm basically with ZXC on this one. Except in obvious cases of journalistic fraud, we have to operate under the social contract of trusting reputable (reliable) news outlets to report factual news based on undisclosed sources. This is the list of best-selling Switch games, not the list of officially best-selling Switch games (and we use unofficial-but-reputable sources for sales all the time because publishers have gotten more and more cagey about releasing sales figures). Since we don't have a reasonable doubt about the veracity of the claim, we do a disservice to our readers by not including it in pursuit of an "official" source that does not and may never exist. Axem Titanium (talk) 19:31, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I misjudged, I wouldn't have thought this sort of sourcing wouldn't be good enough. I'll drop it then. I'll let you all take it from here. Sergecross73 msg me 20:03, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle did NOT sell 7.5 million copies

Idk how to revert edits or I'm not able to.

Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle has again been wrongfully updated to 7.5 million despite the tweet in the linked article clearly saying 7.5 million players, not sales. Even the date as of when that was is wrong.

I would be thankful if someone reverted all of the recent edits done regarding that game as none of them show an actual sales number anywhere.

To prevent this in the future not only the 10 million number, but also the 7.5 million number should be added to the invisible comment. BB1802 (talk) 07:00, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done and done. TheHumanIntersect (talk) 07:22, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Human Fall Flat

https://curvegames.com/news/human-fall-flat-hits-no1-in-china/

Apparently the game sold "almost two million units" in Japan alone on the Switch. Can with an "almost two million" statement the game be added with 2 million on the list here? BB1802 (talk) 11:03, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]